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Unknown Couple Attacked, Rural NY 1971-72


From my own concerns for other people, and the want of comfort for the family of these unknown victims, I hope that this will resolve the anguish they must experience. In the time frame of 1971 or early 1972, two men attacked at couple on the road side, either in New York or Mass. The location is uncertain, due to our families moving around, but the time frame is certain, because one of them went to prision in 1972 (see New York State Dept Correction, Thomas Sawdey). The story,told to me by a younger sibling, has been commented on by one of the perts over the years. We are just now, years later, putting the peices together. The witness, then preschool age, was riding in a truck with my uncle (Sawdey) and my father. In the late evening, they pulled off the road, behind a couple who had a flat tire. They couple, dressed in formal clothes, were glad to see help arrive. The two men offered to help them, and the young man opened the trunk of his car, one of the men, took the cross bar, and smashed it against the young man's head. The girl ran down the road screaming, and was drug back by her hair. They tied the boy to a tree, and took turns raping the girl. After they finished, they tied her to tree, and slashed her face and throat. They casterated the young man, and left them on tied up. One fact that might stick out, was that the boys genital were put in his mouth after castration. Shortly afterwards, my father moved from the area, when people began fire bombing our home, when my uncle was arrested for the murder of his elderly landlord. We moved to SC, and changed addresses twice a year until 1976. I am sure that the story is true, and know that both are capable of such. I was directly told by my father that he had killed "some stupid kids" on the road. Tieing these things together, I do beleive that my father was involved. I just don't know any other way to get the word out. Please consider this case. He is in very poor health, and the window of oppurtunity is closing quickly.

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I am a researcher, writer and editor of the website CRIMENET www.crimenet.com.au CRIMENET provides a database of convicted criminals, unsolved crimes, wanted persons, missing persons, cons and scams and general crime and crime prevention stories.




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Update, News!


I have been contacted by a law enforcement agency in NY and a person in Mass, and the information is going national on the wires this afternoon. It will go nation wide. Maybe, someone, somewhere knows something. Cross your fingers.

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From my own concerns for other people, and the want of comfort for the family of these unknown victims, I hope that this will resolve the anguish they must experience. In the time frame of 1971 or early 1972, two men attacked at couple on the road side, either in New York or Mass. The location is uncertain, due to our families moving around, but the time frame is certain, because one of them went to prision in 1972 (see New York State Dept Correction, Thomas Sawdey). The story,told to me by a younger sibling, has been commented on by one of the perts over the years. We are just now, years later, putting the peices together. The witness, then preschool age, was riding in a truck with my uncle (Sawdey) and my father. In the late evening, they pulled off the road, behind a couple who had a flat tire. They couple, dressed in formal clothes, were glad to see help arrive. The two men offered to help them, and the young man opened the trunk of his car, one of the men, took the cross bar, and smashed it against the young man's head. The girl ran down the road screaming, and was drug back by her hair. They tied the boy to a tree, and took turns raping the girl. After they finished, they tied her to tree, and slashed her face and throat. They casterated the young man, and left them on tied up. One fact that might stick out, was that the boys genital were put in his mouth after castration. Shortly afterwards, my father moved from the area, when people began fire bombing our home, when my uncle was arrested for the murder of his elderly landlord. We moved to SC, and changed addresses twice a year until 1976. I am sure that the story is true, and know that both are capable of such. I was directly told by my father that he had killed "some stupid kids" on the road. Tieing these things together, I do beleive that my father was involved. I just don't know any other way to get the word out. Please consider this case. He is in very poor health, and the window of oppurtunity is closing quickly.

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I am a researcher, writer and editor of the website CRIMENET www.crimenet.com.au CRIMENET provides a database of convicted criminals, unsolved crimes, wanted persons, missing persons, cons and scams and general crime and crime prevention stories.




I would like to hear from anyone who has an unsolved crime they would like listed and featured on CRIMENET.We also send out a free weekly newsletter (which can be subscribed to by visiting CRIMENET)which is read by readers worlwide and will feature any new unsolved, missing and wanted cases.

Re: CrimeNet - Would like to hear of unsolved crimes


Unsolved crime in Clearwater,Florida. Friend Joanne Longi Schmalz, found in pond behind her house on October6,2002.

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I am a researcher, writer and editor of the website CRIMENET www.crimenet.com.au CRIMENET provides a database of convicted criminals, unsolved crimes, wanted persons, missing persons, cons and scams and general crime and crime prevention stories.




I would like to hear from anyone who has an unsolved crime they would like listed and featured on CRIMENET.We also send out a free weekly newsletter (which can be subscribed to by visiting CRIMENET)which is read by readers worlwide and will feature any new unsolved, missing and wanted cases.

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(joannes niece) this case has basically been forgotten about... maybe because the killer has already recieved some karma...

Re: CrimeNet - Would like to hear of unsolved crimes

I have some information about JoAnn Longi