Thanks for all those that have turned the
BCABHOF from an idea into a reality.
In September, the core group of 15 were named.
On December 15, the administrators for 2011 will be named.
Concerning all the negativity concerning Amateur Boxing in Canada, do not be concerned I am sure
that changes are a coming - it is a case of positive motivation - maybe we can begin with BC -
The problem is folks complain but they do it from the shadows.
What are the motives of this organization? Please explain
All the respect in the world to you Mr Zelley for trying to give kudos to people that have excelled in BC amatuer boxing and in creating a hall of fame .But i would like to add that what makes a boxer in your opinion and your selectors opinions a worthy inductee.for example lets take Manny Sobral who won one national senior championship fortunately for him in an olympic year so can be called an olympian and is in your list but Geronimoe Bie who won three Canadian championships is not .Just an observation Mr Zelley and not a knock on you or the hall of fame.I would also like to add that i appreciate that no matter who you select there will always be some well deserved people that have been left out .
You cannot put everyone in at one time. Geronimo Bie may be considered
but it is more than just winning titles that will often determine if a person
is worthy of a hall of fame recognition. So, how long did Bie box and what
did he do for the sport and society after his active boxing days.
Why you comin down on me? I may have not chose the right words but the only thing i was wondering was what was the point of it. I could give a care about amateur boxing especially in bc because its crooked and always has been. Ive been a victim of it!!! Thats the reason I fight pro as well as many other pro fighters in bc
I would agree with you that my man as you call him Geronimoe Bie should definitely not make it in as a builder .But i am confused with your comment about after they have ended there amateur boxing carrear.Is it called the BC amateur boxing hall of fame or should it be called BC Boxing and good Samaritan hall of fame .
I guess what i have been trying to say in an around about way is what is the criteria for induction into your hall of fame .
As far as i can remember Olajide didn't do much as an amateur if anything at all, but matured into a very tasty pro .So again i have confusion about the amateur part of your hall of fame .I feel that maybe you and your committee should maybe induct all of the boxers and builders that you deem worthy from 1939 till now and then going forward induct the ones that you deem worthy of induction as it is earned .Also as i have stated before if you dont lay down a platform with a minimum criteria your hall will never have any merit .In my oppinion at least a Senior National championship would be a good starting point as the ones that have earned the right to call themselves a Senior national champion know what time and dedication it takes to be a champion for that year .
Name suggestions - There are many opinions of pasr boxers, coaches and iff
and officials that could be considered.
Therefore, this is an open invitation to all folks with an understanding of the history of amateur boxing in British Columbia to offer suggestions of names
of builders or boxers.
it is through the voices of many that often determines the outcomes.
Please dont take this as critism i am merely one that is voicing my oppinion which is a positive as the more voices heard the better .I would also like to pass on to you my thanks as i have read your many stories of your past boxing experiances and obviously you have much knowledge of this great sport,and find them rather enjoyable, thanks again .
2011 SELECTION PROCESS
We are now a little over one year old, and we are starting with year two of the selection process
with 24 nominees.
This year we have some special categories and some likely choices are;
JUNIOR/YOUTH BOXING - Alan Brown
ALL ROUNDER - Lennie Walters
PIONEER - Tommy Paonessa
FAMILY - The Boyce Family
EVENT - 1967 Cenntenial International
Diamond Belt Championship
Have you picked this years entrants in to your hall of fame yet Mr Zelley .Always interested to hear your views on the matter .
Alan Brown, Tommy Paonessa, Lennie Walters, Jamie Ollenberger,
Lindy Lindmoser, Matt O'Brien, George Angelomatis, the Boyce Family,
the Campbell River Eagles Boxing club, and the
1967 INTERNATIONAL CENTENNIAL DIAMOND BELT CHAMPIONSHIPS.
Some good ones in that group, it would be nice if each inductee had a little bio so then people could see what they have accomplished .Just for my info what did Matt O Brien do as an amateur boxer .
70 wins 30 losses 10 golden gloves 6 b.c 2 alb 2 usa 1 gold 2 silver 3 bronze cancdian championships 2x west canadian champion
Good show ,Well worthy of induction ,top man ,top era .
THE EVENT - The event chosen was the 1967 Diamond Belt tournament which in my opinion was likely the best tournament ever staged in British Columbia. In had all the elements. It was Canada's Centennial year so all things had to be better than good,
It had a champion of champions as the guest referee ROCKY MARCIANO,
On the Saturday morning of that event at a breakfast meeting Rocky was the guest speaker.
the line-up of boxers from California to Montreal was grand, and also included a whose who of Pacific Northwest boxing with one of the Seattle stars being heavyweight knockout artist WESLEY CRAVEN. But, the one from Montreal
was a top selection and his name was DONATO PADUANO.
In one of the divisions, two past Golden Boys and one future Golden Boy lost.
And that was only one of the divisions. In the heavyweight division there was
a large number of entries. Now your lucky to get two in a BC tournament.
Some of the others that would go on to be part of Canada's 1967 Pan Am
Games team included the likes of Wayne Boyce of the fighting Boyce family,
Frank Scott, 1966 Commonwealth Games medal winner, Freddy Fuller,
and Dick Findlay. I believe Marijan Kolar was also on the 1967 team and won a medal.
Just wondering Matt was your one National Championship at the junior level or Senior .
junior also 2x golden boy b.c & alb
If you get some spare time Mr Zelley maybe check out the site above that lists our National Senior Champions from 1969 to 2000 and i can see a few names from BC that are multiple winners .In my opinion probably should be recognized before a one time junior National Champion .Some names that jump out are ,
Les Hamilton 1971 - 1972
D Hoyt 1978 - 1979
L Rolfe 1979 - 1984
K Howard 1979 - 1980
L Mann 1979 - 1980
G Bie 1988-1989-1990
My apologies if i have missed anyone but my point is you all know how hard it is to win one National Senior Championship but to win Multiple then that is truly a tremendous accomplishment .
Also Mr Zelley i ask my next question out of respect for your knowledge of the sport but in 1980 BC had four Canadian Champions
Danny Thompson-Kevin Howard -Laurie Mann -Jaime Olenberger how come with the political boycott of the Olympics in 1980 these four heroes never get any recognition for there ultimate sacrifice ,not even to be called Olympians .
Not sure who the one-time junior champion is that you discussing
I believe it to be Matt .
As time goes by, there are many more that should be considered such as one of the original 1939 Golden Gloves champions KENNY LINDSAY.
Of interest, after that tournament, Lindsay turned pro and would compete from 1940 to 1949 including bouts with DADO MARINO, MANUAL ORTIZ and JACKIE JURICH. A well know competitor wad Vancouver based JACKIE TURNER.
Lindsay was managed by Arnold Bertram.
another name that needs to be considered for 2012 is ROGER ADOLPH.
If it was a decision between ROGER ADOLPH and GERONIMO BIE, it would be a no contest, Roger could make the All-Rounder, boxer or builder catagories in a heartbeat. The best Bie could do is hope to get nominated in the boxer
catagory and then hope that he is not up against some quality competition.
Although we are not running a boxing nice guy popularity contest, character
and positive contributions to the sport are important considerations in selecting
folks for permanent recognition. Winning a Canadian title and a medal in International competition are nice achievements, but they are not golden keys
that will unlock a hall of fame door.
NOMINATIONS for 2012
Nominations close for the 2012 selection on June 30, 2012.
However, the list is growing for 2012 nominees.
The first nominated was ROGER ADOLPH, All-Rounder.
Some other early nominations are boxers
DONNY ORR and TONY DUFFY.
for events, the 1984 JUNIOR NATIONALS and the
SENIOR OLYMPIC BOX-OFFS that took place in
May 1984 in Burnaby, BC.
Boxing club nominated is the NANAIMO BOXING CLUB.
Builders are GEORGE SHIELS and CHARLES JOHN.
It is expected by June 30th. that there will be additional
nominations as there are many worthy candidates.
Folks may suggest names and I will mention them on the
facebook site, and see if someone nominates them.
some new nominations push to list to 13 with a closing deadline being June 30, 2012. some new nominations include the COOKE FAMILY, HARRY TWIST and
MICHAEL OLAJIDE JR.
Asif Dar was a great boxer during the 80's quite possibly the best to come out of Toronto. Due to politics and racism back in those days he was taken advantage of and failed to reach his full potential. Also,It's difficult to find facts to support my argument.
1987 Began his boxing career
1981 he won a championship in BC
1982 he won a championship in Montreal
1985 he was the Lightweight Champion of Canada and featured on Wide World of Sports
later on that year he won GOLD at the OTTAWA Canadian Cup
1986 Commonwealth Games received a GOLD medal
1987 in Athens Greece, he received a Gold Medal
1988 he was at the North Carolina Olympics
later on that year he fought in Korea and was sucker punched, also the German referee sat on him to stop him from getting up, it was no surprise that a German fighter won a Gold medal later on that day.(haha)
He was constantly beating guys in higher weight classes. Dar was constantly taken advantage of throughout his boxing career. He had the skill and potential to go very far and quite possibly could have been one of the best.
Theres a lot more info that I failed to mention due to the lack of availability.
Hey Brian , My man GERONIMO BIE should be in BC Boxing Hall of Fame before Matt O"Brian no disrepect to Matt but by far Geronimo was alot better then MAtt was in the amatuers. I think you guys are leaving alot of people out ,I know all of them you cant do in one year . Brian is WAYNE SPONAGLE in the BC Amatuer Hall of Fame????? I guess its who you know and who likes you on the board to get in.
Yes i agree that Geronimo should be in and gave my opinion previously but to look on this forum and see Mr Olajide up for nomination does not make an sense in any discussion in an amateur hall of fame stop insulting the people that you have already elected Pro ok but i believe you are calling this the BCAB HALL OF FAME .
So any names listed on this site of folks that have not been inducted or nominated
will be added to the list. So please list the names of any that should be considered
and Geronimo Bie will be added and any others that are named.
anyone can be nominated, that does not mean that they will get picked.
add the current canadian champ Tyson "the prince of Hali/King of Canada" Cave to this list and automatically induct into the hall of fame his amateur record speaks for itself
and how much Money do you get for getting in to the hall of fame?
Chingy you are a fool,do everybody a big favor and stay off the site.Where do clown's like you come from?You need help with your dillusion's.You are a pathetic loser,time to grow up.
I'm sorry BC is 4 times the size of nova scotia and we have double the boxers on the senior mens national team as you do. and i'm sorry we won the ship building contract and you didn't. by the way i go by C-MONEY now. loser.
and that aint no delusion that is raw cold hard fact
2012 NOMINATIONS: twenty names in the running
Interesting collection of names etc. from Allan Bayne to Wayne Sponagle.
They range from all-rounder ROGER ADOLPH to junior/youth TONY DUFFY
They include two boxing clubs:
NANAIMO BOXING CLUB and the SPRUCE CAPITAL WARRIORS
And, in the event category it has the
1984 Junior National and Senior Box-offs
(Top three junior boxers in that tournament were
Grenier, Olson and Hilton.
Some of the builders include:
JOHN O'SHEA, BERT LOWES, GEORGE SHIELS, GEORGE ARMSON
Some of the boxers:
Laurie Mann, Geronimo Bie, Donnie Orr.
The ones selected for 2012 will be announced by July 1st.
SMITTY, just to let you know that GERONIMO BIE is a 2012 nominee, but
regardless of his list of titles, his name will likely never see the light of day in any
Boxing Hall of Fame.
It is now official, the ones selected have been named,