Issues Affecting American Indians in Tennessee
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    Issues Affecting American Indians in Tennessee


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    Re: Messiah complex

    Donna D
    And we all know what happened to Judas.



    Heh No, can't say as i remember - or even ever knew - what happened to Judas beyond everyone was POd 'cause he 'turned on' Jesus ... and THAT was the only reason i mentioned him. These folks claiming to be indian yet (as i'm told by many) don't seem to be anything like Indian people (who're taught to NOT be so self-centered and selfish ... and it's way more than being taught these things - it's a mindset)


    Donna D

    No, these guys are the most self-centered "all about me" group of folks I have ever seen. They are the only Tennessee Indians, the world revolves around them and they deserve to be special. It is ridiculous.



    Yes, indeed!!! And even at THAT, it's an UNDERstatement AND ... the one HUGE CLUE to everyone who runs across them that they're not really indian in any recognizable way(s).

    Re: Messiah complex

    You mean you've never watched "The Greatest Story Ever Told" or any of those other Bible movies from the 50s and bfore? You missed a lot of Charleton Heston movies! lol --Anyways, Judas couldn't live with his conscience, nor could he accept the 30 pieces of gold or was it silver? Anyway, money. Then he hanged himself out of guilt and remorse.

    Yah, all those people are pretty quick to tell you how "real Indians" will act, but then they want to go and be the center of the universe. Oh well, when will they learn? Also, having a state card is not gonna make them accepted by the BIA or by federal tribes--they might as well not even think about it.

    Re: Messiah complex

    Donna D
    You mean you've never watched "The Greatest Story Ever Told" or any of those other Bible movies from the 50s and bfore? You missed a lot of Charleton Heston movies! lol --Anyways, Judas couldn't live with his conscience, nor could he accept the 30 pieces of gold or was it silver? Anyway, money. Then he hanged himself out of guilt and remorse.



    LMAO uhh ... NO. Couldn't stand hearing about it at church so i sure wasn't gonna be watching the same ol' (re-told) stories on tv! Besides which, wasn't here (as in born) in the '50's ... and maybe when they were playing in re-runs, i was busy ... elsewhere.


    Donna D
    Yah, all those people are pretty quick to tell you how "real Indians" will act, but then they want to go and be the center of the universe. Oh well, when will they learn? Also, having a state card is not gonna make them accepted by the BIA or by federal tribes--they might as well not even think about it.



    ROTFLMAO Oh no, say it ain't so!

    They won't be accepted by the REAL PEOPLE they wish they were?!! *cough ... cough .... choke and sputter!*

    Sorry, happens a lot when i'm laughin' my a@@ off! Anyway ... card or not, NO ONE will accept their claims as legit because there's NO PROOF OR DOCUMENTATION to say it IS 'true'.

    Re: Messiah complex

    It also doesn't help their cause when their "tribes" didn't even exist five years ago! A recognized tribe has to have some history!

    PS--those religious movie are on every year around Christmas and Easter. I don't know how you avoided them--especially before cable. Yes! I am that old!

    Re: Messiah complex

    Donna D
    It also doesn't help their cause when their "tribes" didn't even exist five years ago! A recognized tribe has to have some history!

    PS--those religious movie are on every year around Christmas and Easter. I don't know how you avoided them--especially before cable. Yes! I am that old!



    Well, as pointed out previously, legislators don't give a rat's ass about 'legit' or not, it's all about the $$$$$$$ and who votes for them while contributing AND promising to help make $$$$ for the state.

    About avoiding those shows: like with anything truly disliked, ya find a way not to be there or watch. LOL

    Re: $$$$$$ ?

    Okay,let's talk about how these "tribes" plan to "make money for the state." Most of them talk about "selling their crafts" and "tourism" What tourists in their right minds are gonna want to visit a bunch of Johnny-come-lately, white as the tourists are, know-nothing wannabes? Sorry, I can't even imagine how touting these "tribes" would do anything for state tourism--matter of fact, it would probably hurt tourism to a great degree. And crafts--who among them is a good enough craftsperson to compete with Indian families who have a long tradition of basket-making, pottery and/or jewelry making? I'm guessing we're looking to sell "authentic" sticks with a turkey foot stuck on the end--"peace" pipes bought from the craft store with a little fur and a feather added. Yeah, those are "crafts" that will bring in the tourists in droves!!!!

    Edited to add: Oh yes, lest we forget "She who shall not be named" will again be able to legally use "Indian" as a descriptive on her sewing projects again.

    Re: $$$$$$ ?

    Donna D
    Okay,let's talk about how these "tribes" plan to "make money for the state." Most of them talk about "selling their crafts" and "tourism" What tourists in their right minds are gonna want to visit a bunch of Johnny-come-lately, white as the tourists are, know-nothing wannabes? Sorry, I can't even imagine how touting these "tribes" would do anything for state tourism--matter of fact, it would probably hurt tourism to a great degree. And crafts--who among them is a good enough craftsperson to compete with Indian families who have a long tradition of basket-making, pottery and/or jewelry making? I'm guessing we're looking to sell "authentic" sticks with a turkey foot stuck on the end--"peace" pipes bought from the craft store with a little fur and a feather added. Yeah, those are "crafts" that will bring in the tourists in droves!!!!

    Edited to add: Oh yes, lest we forget "She who shall not be named" will again be able to legally use "Indian" as a descriptive on her sewing projects again.



    Uhh ... yeah. The last thing this state needs is more jokers showing their (edited) .... demonstrating yet again for the whole world to see that the stereotyping is legitimized one more time.

    Should the UNbelievable happen, tourism $$$$ won't exist because i can guarantee there'll be CONSTANT protesting, letting the naive tourists know the 'trap' is bogus - same with the crappy crafts that they would be trying to pawn-off on the unsuspecting! Yeah, 'peace pipes' and the ever-present 'spirit sticks' (is that what they're called, i can't remember right off hand but it sounds right) are perfect examples of what these folks know: FAKE and JUNK.

    But with Cherokee so close, who'd wanna visit some hole-in-the-wall with nothing authentic, real, or worth buying in the first place?!

    SO ... IF the Kornfused Kulture Klub somehow becomes 'state recognized' and somehow acquires the $$$ to build a playground for themselves .... they will still NOT BE RECOGNIZED AS LEGITIMATE by the very People they want to be.

    Exactly.

    "But with Cherokee so close, who'd wanna visit some hole-in-the-wall with nothing authentic, real, or worth buying in the first place?!"


    Very, very true. Why would any tourist want to see them versus a real federal tribe with hotels and casinos already there to enjoy? Not to mention--Cherokee is pretty easy to get to from several states.


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