YOU ARE RIGHT,ALOT OF OTHER TEAMS ARGUE CURSE AND FIGHT BUT THER MUST BE A LIMIT ON YOUR BEHAVIOR IM SURE YOU HAVE ONE IN YOUR HOME . ALL IM SAYING IS LETS NOT FORGET OTHERS IN AND AROUND THE PARKS WE PLAY IN,SOMETIMES THINGS DONT ALWAYS LOOK AS THEY SEEM BUT WHEN YOUR ACTION DEFY YOUR WORDS AND YOUR APPEARANCE NEGATIVLY SOMETHING MUST BE DONE TO PREVENT CAOS OR THE NEXT FELLA WILL THINK ITS OK TO DO..
gotta agree with that!As long as it applies to everybody!
WHEN WE DONT PLAY BY THE RULES WE MAKE OURSELVES LOOK LIKE FOOLS.
first off white boy you would have done nothing and second the only players that really know are the two that was in the play. i don't even know why you brought this that back up. our player felt that he was trying to make a play and the player from esp thought it was dirty, but after everything was calmed down we finished the game and had another game with no problems. We TBI had no ill feelings towards esp and love playing against them guys. whatever happen in indy i can speak on because i was not there but im sure esp will take care of what they need to. hey whats up MS L.A, sorry we couldn't make it to indy but im sure wil see you guys in the lou.
Much love tbi#24!
E22,you right,rules are First!Mail me a copy of yours b/c mine might be different!
Hey TBI#24 I was looking for you in Indy. You are correct it was taken care of then and squashed. Hope to see you in the Lou.
Yeast you are right. When he mails you a copy then give me one or he can fax it to me.
Ms. L.A., again let me stress. My response was only from the tad bit Ive read on here. Im not saying that ESP is causing problems. Im just going the words a few players put on here. Again, I dont know them and i hear they are a bunch of great guys and like I always say. You dont get talked about if you're not a good team. So, more power to them and good luck to you all the rest of the year.
Who cares about that other stuff.....All I want to know is ya'll clowns(my boys) coming to the ATL .....what's up Bye and freak, Ms LA calm dem boys down.... show don't want them to be banned.....Don't leave your A game in KY.....Ya'll got to defend that title.....we watching/waiting!!!!!1 Holla
MS LA WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL
YEAST#7 UNFORTUNATLY I HAVE NO OFFFICIAL RULE BOOK, BUT INTEND ON RECEIVING ONE SOON, IT WAS SHARED WITH ME THAT SOME INFO CONCERNING BASA RULES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE REAL SOON.ALSO MAY I SUGGEST THAT EACH TEAM ORGANIZATION BE GIVEN A RULE BOOK AS PART OF YOUR BASA SANCTIONING FEE,READ IT LEARN IT LIVE IT.THAT WAY WHEN AN ISSUE COME UP AT A TOURNEY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REFER WHOMEVER HAS A QUESTION TO THE CORRECT RULE AND BE DONE . NO GAME STOPPING NO NEED TO KEEP BOTHRERING DIRECTORS OR OFFICIALS,YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE TO KNOW THE RULES TOO.JUST THINK WE COULD POSSIBLY BE ON OUR WAY TO RUNNING A TOURNEY IN A TIMELY FASHION WOULDNT THAT BE A CHANGE....
o yeah! that would be nice!
THEY SHOULD BE BANNED 4 LIFE!MY KIDS OR SOMEONE ELESE'S KIDS OR GROWN FOLKS COULD HAVE GOT SHOT.THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR FUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.
NO THEY SHOULD'NT BE IF U DON'T NO WHAT U R TALKING ABOUT
PLUS WHERE U THERE?
ALL THOSE WHO R 4 ESP halo..............
esp has a great group of guys that can play the h**l
out of some ball a can nobody take that for them.
all this talk about banning that team is bull****.
let them boys play ball.
PLEASE KNOW THE DIFF. FROM GUNSHOTS AND FIREWORKS
THERE IS A BIG DIFF.
Who you wit? Eastside. I've been watching Eastside play for years & they've always been a rowdy team (for the good). I really hope that whatever issues & playa hatin' that's going on can be resolved & everybody can just play ball.
whatever the problems are they will be resolved so quit hating. ESP FOR LIFE
I am not condoning anything close to conflict that goes past mere arguing, but let's face it....Most of the frustration is from the poor organization that the BASA is promoting. ESP isn't the root cause, and I hate that people are trying to make them a scapegoat, for a tournament in INDY that should have been great, but was marred by BASA inconsistency! ESP wasn't the only frustrated team in INDY! I saw many frustrated teams over the poor umpiring, lack of knowledge of the umpires, inconsistency in the director's decision-making and flat out no rules at all (men and women's teams). To all of you who think I'm making this up, let me give you some true examples that I discovered in my investigation:
1) Park waited 45 minutes for a team from St. Louis to show up, only to give a team from Cincinnati, a forfeit after 15 minutes!
2) The ladies played on a field in which the mound was not at regulation distance. Instead of making the change to prohibit risk of injury, they just allowed the games to keep on going. Not taking anything away from the eventual champion, but that field gave an unfair advantage to teams with patience at the plate. More research would probably say that most pitchers walked more batters than they normally do?! Hope no ladies hurt their arms, I'm sure they are sore!
3) The intercom screamed every 20 minutes for teams to pay their fees and turn in their roster prior to their first game?! You mean to tell me, nobody was checking for an illegal player until Sunday? Sounds to me like MONEY over MATTER! I can bet that City Hitters didn't get their entry fee back? And what about the teams that City Hitter beat? Aren't they deserved of a refund?
4)It should be of note that the park fell 2 hours behind on games Saturday (See #1), causing some teams to have to play at 7am on Sunday! Call me a tournament novice, but I asked around and nobody had ever heard of a tournament starting at the crack of dawn on a Sunday?
5) BASA umpires need better training! I heard hundreds, and I literally mean hundreds of players asking, "IS THIS BASA OR U-TRIP?" I heard from one of my sources that he asked an umpire and got a response of "IDONO"
So, you see ladies and gentlemen, let's not bash ESP just to make them scapegoats. We need rulebooks fast! BASA is creating an environment of confusion by not having one, and it is spilling over to it's product. The players and the teams!(Also see Graystone Blogs)In closing, there will always be a team like ESP! Those of you who have been around, can name them as you read in your head! Banning them is not the answer? And anyhow, show me what constitutes banning a team in the BASA rulebooks?! OH, I forgot......There is no BASA rulebook! Whatcha know about that?