MM Faye




I can of course only answer from my own understanding and hopefully others will do the same. To me this is aligning ones vibrations or thoughts with the divine, or harmonising with the divine might be another way of saying it. This would be the reaching of the state of "at one ment", or that sense of unity. Jesus states this as "I and my Father arer one." This being the realisation that there is no seperation between us and God as it were. We relise that God is us and we are God. No seperation, no ego (sense of seperation or sense of I, you, them)




That's how I understand it.




MP


Penn

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The Rosicrucian word was "Cosmic Conscieness" which basically meant you could communicate with anybody and everything because you were connected in ways different then say driving a car - but just as effective. Suposedly all Rosicrucian teachers and officers had this ability. I'll not get into that now.




I find it fascinating that modern science tends to verify the possibly without even looking for it. The problem is behavior that is beneficial to a group of animals (or even bacteriums) that would normally be learned by observation or other close contact. Some times there is no contact and yet real learning occurs. Or some improvement occurs in a sort of vacume. That contradicts the old evelutionary theorum of the survival of the fittest. If there is no outside stimulus then why does progress still occur?




We know each human being has memories of his/her life from the beginning then are elusive but reachible thru hypnosis. Conventional science doent recogise anything more exotic although metaphysics suggests beings are actually more like recievers then indivuals. This is fascinating becuase we can't actually point to a certian section of the brain and say HERE are the memories. If that were so we could perform surgery on people who experienced something trumatic they desparately needed to forget. To say memories are actually stored elsewhere outside the being's form - and the being simply recieves them like radio waves - opens up endless possiblities of communication and learning.

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Good books to read that mesh physics with Mysticism:




http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060922583/inktomi-df1-2-20/104-6363849-3212751




I just can't accept that there is a dichotomy between scientific truths and the Truth of the existence of God or Tao or the Force-


truths are Truth.


A developing Mystic's downfall is a new big word I learned:


Obsessive Hypostatization.


The need to encapsulate the figurative or abstract into the concrete literal.


I am still waiting for my Intuition.

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The Rosicrucian word was "Cosmic Conscieness" which basically meant you could communicate with anybody and everything because you were connected in ways different then say driving a car - but just as effective. Suposedly all Rosicrucian teachers and officers had this ability. I'll not get into that now.




I find it fascinating that modern science tends to verify the possibly without even looking for it. The problem is behavior that is beneficial to a group of animals (or even bacteriums) that would normally be learned by observation or other close contact. Some times there is no contact and yet real learning occurs. Or some improvement occurs in a sort of vacume. That contradicts the old evelutionary theorum of the survival of the fittest. If there is no outside stimulus then why does progress still occur?




We know each human being has memories of his/her life from the beginning then are elusive but reachible thru hypnosis. Conventional science doent recogise anything more exotic although metaphysics suggests beings are actually more like recievers then indivuals. This is fascinating becuase we can't actually point to a certian section of the brain and say HERE are the memories. If that were so we could perform surgery on people who experienced something trumatic they desparately needed to forget. To say memories are actually stored elsewhere outside the being's form - and the being simply recieves them like radio waves - opens up endless possiblities of communication and learning.

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Dion Fortune noted that the Metaphysical must retreat as the physical sciences developed because new and better answeres justified that. But I think any disapline can become self limeting. For example: the idea of circular equations is not popular in the physical sciences but I read where determeaning rather time goes foward or backwards was indeterminate. We cant prove it either way. We cant even measure a lot of things without alturing them. So what is wrong with a linear universe? We use that to build many fine bridges and they serve us well. But we cant find a beginning or end of time any more then we can put a fence on where the universe begins and ends. Logic dictates it must curve upon itself in ways we can't understand. So I think the occult - the hidden - isnt necessarily destroyed by cold math and science or rendered obsolete. It is just that certain concepts are outside the classroom mentality such as anything with no beginning and no end. Our maths fail us in explaining that and that is exactly why metaphysics leads the way untill science catches up with it ....

To understand clearly the technique "Attunement with the Cosmic", one has to know the term Cosmic. Just what does Cosmic mean? Cosmic is not just another term for God but the totality of all that is, the active force of God, and everything in the universe and yet not one of these particulars. Therefore me, Frater Serafine and yourself are all part of this Cosmic


To attune with the Cosmic, we have to tune in with the ALL. It is not an AMORC secret but could be done by any one who can remain passive in contemplation and meditation.

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The Rosicrucian word was "Cosmic Conscieness" which basically meant you could communicate with anybody and everything because you were connected in ways different then say driving a car - but just as effective. Suposedly all Rosicrucian teachers and officers had this ability. I'll not get into that now.




I find it fascinating that modern science tends to verify the possibly without even looking for it. The problem is behavior that is beneficial to a group of animals (or even bacteriums) that would normally be learned by observation or other close contact. Some times there is no contact and yet real learning occurs. Or some improvement occurs in a sort of vacume. That contradicts the old evelutionary theorum of the survival of the fittest. If there is no outside stimulus then why does progress still occur?




We know each human being has memories of his/her life from the beginning then are elusive but reachible thru hypnosis. Conventional science doent recogise anything more exotic although metaphysics suggests beings are actually more like recievers then indivuals. This is fascinating becuase we can't actually point to a certian section of the brain and say HERE are the memories. If that were so we could perform surgery on people who experienced something trumatic they desparately needed to forget. To say memories are actually stored elsewhere outside the being's form - and the being simply recieves them like radio waves - opens up endless possiblities of communication and learning.

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Somewhere I had a rather classic poem I got from a Golden Dawn forum.....something on the lines of: "I am the God of the dark as well as the light". It practically scolded the reader to realize you couldn't have love with out hate and treating G*d like a wimp wouldn't work. Gregg Braden accounts a rather illuminating experience in which he visions the face of Lucifer who morhps into a crying child. Bradens explaination of this was that Lucifer was just doing his job, for the sake of humanity, creating the world in it's most gross aspects so that we could enjoy the whole and pick and choose what we thought was best. A most thankless task ...




I thought this over and was frankly alarmed by the implications. A person could obtain "cosmic conscieness" or some stage thereof and be more or less morally bankrupt. Such power in the wrong hands ..I shudder the think. And yet it begs the question alluded to in the first paragraft: are morals absolute or just something we humans invent for our own ego? Does our desires account for anything in the grand scheme of the cosmos? If love conqueres all do we even know what love is in our present state of incarnation?




Metaphysics, like astronomy, can open vast worlds that literally dwaft us in something insignificant. And yet we can claim to be effected in ways undifferent then anyone else who ever did or will live.




So now I tend to view the Cosmos as sort a "equal opportunity employer". It doesnt work that way in mundane life but at least the Cosmos doesnt seem to be predudiced. Still scary but hey respect comes before love anyways .....Im still working on the latter .......

Hi Fay:


Some of the answers given by other members are very good. The reason you are having some difficulties in understanding the subject is that you are dealing with the basics. Why are you studying Mysticism? What do you expect from Mysticism? What is Mysticism? What do Mystics do WITHIN their spiritual development? The answer, of course is, Cosmic Consciousness. Your study is about God and learning that you are a part of God or the Cosmic. If we allow ourselves to attune with our source we will have approached this state. A perplexing problem for beginners is that they learn that not everyone has Cosmic Consciousness to the same degree. The utmost would be to actually have conversations with God, a state which most of us never reach. Others receive moments of enlightenment during meditation or sleep. Some are motivated to write books that are inspired by the Cosmic, etc. Your purpose in studying Mysticism is to claim your "heritage" from God or the Cosmic. You learn that you and the Cosmic are one. Your comprehensive study, "attunement", contemplation, and meditation makes this possible. You are one with the Cosmic - your realization of this, restores this important function to you. Study of the various pages and links of this site will help you attaine this state. The "downfall of man" will not apply to you.

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Hello Faye,




I hope I understand your question. And please excuse me for my English.




No, it is not an AMORC secret. When a RC start his or her's study they receive a monografie caled Liber 777. In this monografie you learn how to make contact with the Cosmic Sanctum. In this little book you are instructed to be in harmony with yourself, with others and with nature. Your are instructed about what this Cosmic Sanctum is and how you build it (visualisation)and how you can contact, in this personaly build Cosmic Sanctum, the Cosmic (or God if you like). After some practice you can speak with the Cosmic.




It is a sensation you cannot put in word. It is incredible.




I think that you can ask an English RC to copy this Liber 777 for you. I can do this for you but I don't think you can read Dutch.




Light, Love and Live




Klaas Hoogesteijn, FRC

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