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rmw Aug 16th, 2007 - 12:16 PM	Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? I don't beleive that this is purely a legislative issue any more than it is strictly a societal issue and the solution will need to address all aspects of the problem. To begin with this is not just a biker issue. I believe it was Harvard which did an economic impact study which estimated that the property damage incurred by cell phone using drivers will pushing 10 Billion dollars a year. I think we can learn a great deal from the most successful grassroots effort in recent history, MADD which single handedly changed an entire nation's attitude about drinking a driving. But first things first. We need to begin by forming an organization whose sole purpose is to educate and lobby on this sole issue and not just bikers but all people. It should be incorporated as a 501.3(c) with a BOD and advisory council. We should invite people to be on the advisory committe from mfrs, insurance, government, riding organizations etc. We would further need to identify impacted individuals and groups who may be potential allies such as insurance companies, AMA, ABATE, MRF. We need to actively seek grants as well. We would then launch a public information effort to educate the public, while educating and lobbying legislators. Actively seek public outlets such as TV, radio etc. To be blunt, two pissed off mothers changed everything. Here we have tens of thousands of bikers. But we need to organize, focus and work smart, network and build relationships and allies under the umbrella of a single purpose organization which can generate credibility with people. Personally I stand ready to help because I'm tired of having a bullseye on my back. Email

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Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Pamela Kelme... - Aug 20, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Garry Van Ki... - Sep 05, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Sandi Hollis... - Aug 14, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Big Wayne - Aug 14, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Kris - Aug 14, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Slyder - Aug 14, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by crazydave - Aug 14, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by rc - Aug 14, 2007

Re: Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Papa John Br... - Aug 15, 2007

HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 15, 2007

Thanks for the Opportunity to Expand on Previous Post - We Need to Lobby Our MROs and NHTSA to Take - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 16, 2007

Re: Thanks for the Opportunity to Expand on Previous Post - We Need to Lobby Our MROs and NHTSA to T - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 16, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Double D - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Garry Van Ki... - Aug 15, 2007

What about jamming their cell phone signals? - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 15, 2007

Attn Geeks/Techies/Engineers: Please give us your feedback on these or other alternatives - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 15, 2007

Re: Attn Geeks/Techies/Engineers: Please give us your feedback on these or other alternatives - by rc - Aug 15, 2007

No, Better They Keep On Gossiping About Who Sandy's Best Friend's Boyfriend is Screwing Behind her B - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 16, 2007

All ideas will be given full and fair consideration, including this one. - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 16, 2007

All Ideas Must Be Subject To Criticism in Open Debate, I Maintain That This is a Bad One. - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 17, 2007

Re: All Ideas Must Be Subject To Criticism in Open Debate, I Maintain That This is a Bad One. - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 17, 2007

How Cell-phone Jammers Work -- The Legal Issues - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

Info From Our Anonymous Engineer - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

More Info From Our Anonymous Engineer - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

Still More Info From Our Anonymous Engineer - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

Re: Still More Info From Our Anonymous Engineer - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 17, 2007

The XT5000 seems to be the best model for our purposes - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

Supplementary Commentary From Our Anonymous Engineer - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

NOTICE: I Don't Want Anything to Do With This. You Shouldn't Either. Get Legal Advice, Right Now. - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 17, 2007

Relax and take a deep breath - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

Re: Relax and take a deep breath - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 17, 2007

"Irresponsible"? - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

Re: "Irresponsible"? - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 18, 2007

Thanks, Ray - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

On what is LEGAL versus what is JUST - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

PLEASE READ THIS DISCLAIMER IN THE HEADER TO THIS FORUM - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 17, 2007

Re: PLEASE READ THIS DISCLAIMER IN THE HEADER TO THIS FORUM - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 17, 2007

"Take this seriously"? - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

Re: "Take this seriously"? - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 18, 2007

Re: Re: "Take this seriously"? - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by gsabate pres... - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by RustyBongard - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Tina Horton - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by DAVID N. MYE... - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by B.J. - Aug 15, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Sam - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by H. Avello - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Mike Coon - Aug 15, 2007

Senator Was Distracted By Her Cell Phone When She Caused Freeway Accident - by Garry Van Ki... - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 15, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Sam - Aug 15, 2007

Re: Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 15, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 15, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by crazydave - Aug 15, 2007

Devils advocate again - by rc - Aug 16, 2007

Re: Devils advocate again - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 16, 2007

Re: Re: Devils advocate again - by rc - Aug 16, 2007

Re: Re: Re: Devils advocate again - by RustyBongard - Aug 16, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Kathy Reitin... - Aug 16, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Dennis Gilch... - Aug 17, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by M-a-d-d Ray - Aug 19, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Cheef - Aug 18, 2007

PARK TO TALK: From Clarence Ditlow, The Center for Auto Safety - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

"WARNING: CELLPHONE IMPAIRED DRIVER" IDIOT LIGHTS ON CAGE ROOFS - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

CELLPHONE ON, IGNITION OFF. CELLPHONE ON, HORN ON. - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 18, 2007

Re: CELLPHONE ON, IGNITION OFF. CELLPHONE ON, HORN ON. - by Sam - Aug 18, 2007

Re: CELLPHONE ON, IGNITION OFF. CELLPHONE ON, HORN ON. - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 19, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Joellen Bruc... - Aug 18, 2007

Damnnnnnn and thanks Ray! - by rc - Aug 18, 2007

Re: Damnnnnnn and thanks Ray! - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 19, 2007

Warning from Forum Moderator - by Forum Modera... - Aug 19, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by mike - Aug 19, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by roy e fisher - Aug 19, 2007

Can Personal Injury Lawyers and Auto Accident Attorneys Contribute to the Cause of Deterring Cell Ph - by Ray Henke - Aug 20, 2007

Re: Can Personal Injury Lawyers and Auto Accident Attorneys Contribute to the Cause of Deterring Cel - by RustyBongard - Aug 20, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Cari M - Aug 20, 2007

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Re: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? - by Cari M - Aug 21, 2007

Re: Re: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? - by rc - Aug 21, 2007

Can We Persuade Cari? Is it Realistic That We Can Persuade Motorists by Informational Campaigns to H - by Ray Henke - Aug 22, 2007

Re: Can We Persuade Cari? Is it Realistic That We Can Persuade Motorists by Informational Campaigns - by Cari M - Aug 22, 2007

Can We Persuade Cari? Additional Information. Is it Realistic That We Can Persuade Motorists by Info - by M-a-d-d Ray ... - Aug 22, 2007

Re: Can We Persuade Cari? Additional Information. Is it Realistic That We Can Persuade Motorists by - by Cari M - Aug 23, 2007

Re: Re: Can We Persuade Cari? Additional Information. Is it Realistic That We Can Persuade Motorists - by M-a-d-d Ray ... - Aug 24, 2007

So You Won't Turn Off Your Cell Phone? Don't Worry—The Paint Will - by GeorginaK@ao... - Aug 22, 2007

Re: So You Won't Turn Off Your Cell Phone? Don't Worry—The Paint Will - by GeorginaK@ao... - Aug 22, 2007

How would this work? What would you paint? - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 22, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Chuck DeSari... - Aug 22, 2007

Re: Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by rc - Aug 22, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Dave Kipp - Aug 23, 2007

Time to Put the SHOEI on the Other Foot - by Bruce Arnold - Aug 23, 2007

Re: Time to Put the SHOEI on the Other Foot - by M-a-d-d Ray ... - Aug 25, 2007

Ray, These sites promote the use of blue tooth enabled helmets - by rc - Aug 30, 2007

Ray, These sites promote the use of blue tooth enabled helmets - by M-a-d-d Ray ... - Sep 02, 2007

Re: HOW DO WE GET CAGERS TO HANG UP AND DRIVE? - by Palestrya - Aug 27, 2007