GANG

Feb 29, 08 - 2:29 PM

Teenage Gang Hanging around Countrystore

look u old peaple i hanging around countrystore so wot u sad peaple get a live

SL6 ZOOP

Amazed

Feb 29th, 2008 - 2:45 PM

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So these cretins have enough brain cells between them to manage to log on to a computer and make a posting. Wow, and I thought they were thick as planks.

Blade

Feb 29th, 2008 - 7:37 PM

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AH !
yes so they can turn a pc on
BUT what about spell check

12345

Mar 1st, 2008 - 12:22 AM

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U say all this but none of the boys down there do anything the 13 - 14 year olds u lot chat about is a load of ****e u mightaswell give up aswell if ur going to put abuse like that on this site how about u tlk to them they mite listen instead of saying all this crap on a website !!! sort it ureself boi !!!

LizzyK

Mar 1st, 2008 - 12:01 PM

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Thanks 12345 for putting forward your side. You are right if we talked to each other we might understand each other more.

Hoodie

Mar 1st, 2008 - 3:43 PM

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The problem is you say we should all talk butt as far as MOST of the older people in Cookham are concerned
teenagers should be seen butt not heard.
They also seem to think we are all robbers muggers car thieves ect.......

I'M SURE THIS REPLY WILL BE REMOVED WITHIN 25 MINS

Butt stranger things have happend

Showem

Mar 1st, 2008 - 4:20 PM

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I don't have a problem with hearing teenagers. As long as they aren't swearing up a storm in front of people and insulting people coming in and out of the shop. That was the complaint of Worried Resident in the other topic.

Nora Skinsk

Mar 1st, 2008 - 4:56 PM

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Imagine a village without young people.
It'd be the Pied Piper all over again and end up being a retirement place to die.

Life hasn't changed....think back ....everyone hung out in the 50's, 60's 70's and so on.

You just forget that's all.

NORA BATTY

Mar 2nd, 2008 - 6:18 PM

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only last evening these hoodlums hanging around the station car park and the language comming out of the teenage girls was totally disgusting,i recognised 2 girls as being very local and know the parents well,these are not outsiders but very much "cookham children" and too brush this problem aside by saying their from langley/maidenhead is all too easy,oh and yes they were all drinking from bottles of cider!

residnent

Mar 11th, 2008 - 5:31 PM

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What where theses girls doing? why where they there? i no myself what it was like being a teenager but i didnt waste my life sitting round, at the station drinking cider.

what should we do about this?

Also ive seen these teenagers around and not all ov them are the thugs you think they are. Some go to well respectable schools but they just like hangging round with these thugs so not all of them are to blame. Some i no myself and are nothing like some of the thugs in cookham. Mostly there are only a few bad eggs and the other ones follow the crowd.

LizzyK

Mar 2nd, 2008 - 7:59 PM

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I have just heard that the Royal Borough have decided not to give any grant at all to the Cookham Youth Project for 2008-2009, it really is great to know where our support does not come from.

ghetto-blaster

Mar 2nd, 2008 - 8:16 PM

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but lizzie are you not surprised? afterall cookham will soon become a ghetto with all the"new" housing and the feral teenagers we have roaming around at nights......when this happens the royal borough will then fund every youth scheme in cookham from a rave on the pound to a KFC takeaway to replace maliks...as a community WE do not do enough for our teenagers except bring them down at every opportunity...another nail in the coffin for the teenagers of cookham.

gang

Mar 13th, 2008 - 2:37 PM

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plz look me and my mate r peaple u talk about me and my mate like will r **** peaple but we r nice peaple

LizzyK

Mar 14th, 2008 - 12:52 AM

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At the Cookham Society AGM this evening an elderly lady came up to me and said 'Do you know anything about the gang of young people outside Countrystore?' Her reason for asking was that her car broke down there and the young people had all rushed round to try and help her and had even offered to walk her home when nothing could be done to start it. She said they could not have been more charming and helpful and only wished that Cookham could do more for its young people.

Paris

Mar 14th, 2008 - 9:34 AM

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Lizzy that was a truly heartening message.

Perhaps we have a perception problem, which is certainly what the teenagers who have written on this message board seem to think. This however is only enhanced by the fact the teenagers feel the need to shout bad language. Maybe if they could tone down their raucous behaviour, difficult I know when peer pressure comes into play, the populace at large might not see them as threatening or intimidating. And we call all see in them the good that yourself and a few others do.

eric

Mar 14th, 2008 - 9:42 AM

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Lizzy,
is one of these little gits a child of yours by any chance?

LizzyK

Mar 14th, 2008 - 6:26 PM

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George G, I am not sure that it is the kids who are complaining, but the adults who are complaining about the kids. As has been demonstrated with the case of the broken down car the young people are naturally helpful. How many people have actually just said "Hello" to the young people they are complaining about and had a joke with them.

Resident

Mar 14th, 2008 - 10:45 PM

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The ones that were playing football in the children's playground hitting a football at force at my 3 yr old (leaving a large red mark on his side and he was wearing a padded jacket) were pretty unpleasant and I doubt the same ones who helped the lady with the broken down car. They were well spoken but rude, ignorant and (with the exception of one who gave a surly 'sorry') completely unapologetic.

It wasn't that long ago that I was a teenager and I certainly didn't spend my evenings loafing around and causing trouble. I had no access to youth groups or other activities either. I think a lot of this trouble stems from uninterested parents.

George G

Mar 15th, 2008 - 11:41 AM

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Sorry if I got that bit wrong, Lizzy, but it really is difficult to interpret what a couple of the above messages are trying to convey. If some of the youngsters would (please?) write in plain English, perhaps they would like to tell us in a few polite sentences about themselves, who they are and which school they go to etc., also how the public might be able help them spend their time in a way which is interesting and possibly useful for them. In other words, what else do they WANT to do?

Like you, I believe that these are mostly good kids at heart, but young people can go sullen when they feel potentially criticised, as Resident experienced, although there is no excuse for rudeness. Maybe we should also stop and have a friendly chat with some of them, if they would like that?

I agree that most of us managed to do lots of interesting things with our evenings and weekends other than hanging around on street corners, being abusive and drinking alcohol. In the many years I have lived in Cookham, I can't remember this problem occurring previously, yet kids seem to have far more to entertain themselves with nowadays than we used to.

However, we must remember that these young people will be the next generation bringing up their own families in the village and it certainly seems that they need some help and guidance now, as we certainly don't want any of our Cookham youngsters getting into any real trouble.

By the way, what was the Youth funding earmarked to be used for?

max oliver

Mar 16th, 2008 - 10:19 PM

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hi im max oliver i can admit i have been abusive and abit aggressive to people but im not really a bad kid if you get to know me,and also i would like it if there was a few more interesting things to do in cookham aswell please sorry if i have ever had ago at anyone i do act like a prat around my mates sometimes

yours sincerly max

Pongo

Mar 16th, 2008 - 11:05 PM

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Nice to know you Max, what sort of things are you looking for?

Hmmm

Mar 17th, 2008 - 4:21 PM

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Don't fall for it Pongo. I know Max Oliver and this is someone having a laugh, not the darling child himself.

Max is one of the "gang" that hang around outside CountryStore and has been getting steadily worse over the last three years.

I could regale you further on the joys of this family, however as they are not here to defend the indefencible it'd be wrong.

max oliver

Mar 17th, 2008 - 6:26 PM

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whats your problem hmmm trying to make an effort here and be better i might be the ring leader of the gang but i dont swear at every1 its my mates

old bill

Mar 17th, 2008 - 8:34 PM

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don't rise to the bait

allu

Mar 17th, 2008 - 8:41 PM

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max why you trying to act innocent?

me

Mar 17th, 2008 - 10:20 PM

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take what max says with a pinch of salt, i wouldn't trust him with an odd sock and that goes to the rest of his coney's. as i work in the shop i have heard him and co in action, and have had regular apologies that mean nothing, because their actions are repeated consistently. can you really imagine these oiks at a youth club any other event organized to keep them off the street?? it is obviously too hard for their parents to give a toss.

vince

Mar 18th, 2008 - 12:29 PM

slough boy

max oliver.thats interesting!

CH

Mar 18th, 2008 - 12:36 PM

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I really don't think names should be mentioned on here (for comedy purposes or otherwise).

Whatever the lads have done, this is a permanent record (unless you are Malik) and they don't have a right to reply.

Claire

Mar 18th, 2008 - 2:23 PM

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In response to the ladies comments below, my sone and his friends went to this lady to see if they could help (whilst I watched on) - I think that if the residents of cookham took an interest in our younger community in what can we do for them rather than waht caqn we attack them for this week, you would find that most are polite, respectful and protective towards the older community. Maybe if the adults were not so rude to the younger residents they would find that a mutual respect is gained. The youths have never sworn, been rude or disrespectful in my company, I talk to them not shout at them, can you say that? (response to) - At the Cookham Society AGM this evening an elderly lady came up to me and said 'Do you know anything about the gang of young people outside Countrystore?' Her reason for asking was that her car broke down there and the young people had all rushed round to try and help her and had even offered to walk her home when nothing could be done to start it. She said they could not have been more charming and helpful and only wished that Cookham could do more for its young people.

trims

Mar 18th, 2008 - 4:12 PM

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yeah tell them claire.

shop owner

Mar 18th, 2008 - 5:09 PM

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I have owned a shop here all my life
Max Oliver, his family and his friends are a utter disgrace to our village - He should be locked up and the key thrown away along with his mother - She is a disgrace too, even more so for not showing him the right road in life - His Dad...where is he - does he have one as no input from him can be seen,a man to sit back and not care what goes on.........and tell me where does this boy buy his wacky baccy from....

akela

Mar 18th, 2008 - 5:18 PM

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what a ridiculous comment." Does he have a Dad" Are you saying shop Owner that all single parents don't know how to bring up their children? because I for one would take umbrage at that!
The cookham society are looking for a "memorial or project" to fund and are asking for suggestions... dare i suggest they get behind the cookham Youth project?

Paris

Mar 18th, 2008 - 5:23 PM

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A memorial to good manners, politeness and consideration for other human beings could be a good project!

Claire

Mar 18th, 2008 - 8:12 PM

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if this forum is a voice for adults to speak to children and 'show' how civilised communication and conversation is made, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Im no teenager, at 40 I have learnt the art of polite conversation, our children learn from example..... what an example this is! Shop owner, do you have children? how easy it is to pass judgement on those you dont know, well I do know the family and they are a polite and supportive family unit - this should not be used to attack individuals - it should be used for positive support and suggestions from the community (although this is not a community, its a witch hunt!) you should be ashamed of yourselves as adults.

Sooty

Mar 18th, 2008 - 9:52 PM

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i really have heard it all now, you people really need to get a life and get out more!
these kids have absolutely nothing to do in this town and have to make the best of the facilities they have around them! every generation has the same problems i remember being bored as a teenager in a town twice the size of cookham! (40 years ago)
the majority of the comments on here are by adults, the spelling and grammar is appalling and you are having a go at these kids! get a life!
i see these kids every day, they do nothing different to all teenage boys!
instead of critisizing them, try speaking to them like normal people and they will probably respond in a similiar manner!

trims

Mar 19th, 2008 - 9:23 AM

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shut ur mouth. u plu (shop owner)

another shop owner

Mar 19th, 2008 - 10:40 AM

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claire and sooty!Are your surnames Oliver by any chance?

commuter

Mar 19th, 2008 - 11:23 AM

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I think the tone of posts has degenerated as people have had enough of these antisocial little sods.
Regardless of whether it's one family or a group kids people should not have to tolerate this bad behaviour.

There is simply no excuse for it.
You could pour millions into Community projects and these louts would still hang around causing problems... why?

Because money cannot make up for poor parenting, lack of discipline and no respect for others.
Throwing money at a problem does not solve it, we only have to look at the fiasco that is the current Labour government to see this.

How about funding more police, stop making excuses for these people as this just gives them the green light to carry on.

Funny how in times gone by the level of community funded projects was a lot lower, yet society was more civil?

CH

Mar 19th, 2008 - 11:49 AM

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I haven't seen any of the kids hanging round the station/Countrystore all week.

Is this really the scale of problem that warrants such a strong repsonse from some people on this discussion board?

Claire

Mar 19th, 2008 - 12:54 PM

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Another shop owner, No my name is not Oliver. I am a 'normal' resident of cookham.
commuter - If you take the attitude of 'little sods' do not be surprised if they take the same attitude in return. you asked why would they be hanging around - invest in their future - they will be the ones supplementing both your pension and your care home! They need activities suited to their generation, not ours, and if you dont like their presence at the train station when you get off it, stay on until Bourne End!

another shop owner

Mar 19th, 2008 - 2:33 PM

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Well said commuter!
I notice webmaster is being very selective about who can leave posts and who cant.Perhaps he or she maybe an oliver too.

LizzyK

Mar 19th, 2008 - 3:39 PM

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Since the Cookham Youth Project came into being ten years ago, we started off being given around £2,000 a year with lots of support from the Royal Borough, with advice, advertising and interviewing youth workers, lots of help etc. etc. In 2008/2009 we are reduced to £0.00 a year (our grant application got turned down), and the only support from the Royal Borough is running our payroll for which they bill us.

vince

Mar 19th, 2008 - 3:49 PM

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max. slough is watching you.

Idea

Mar 19th, 2008 - 3:50 PM

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Here is an idea.

The individuals in question are still minors in the eyes of the law and under parental responsibility.

Why don't disgruntled villagers try and find out who the parents are and have a conversation about it.

The parents are responsible for the children and the upset residents could perhaps, find out how the parents are going to deal with any anti-social behaviour issues.

Perhaps there are things the parents are not aware of and therefore cannot correct.

It is in everyones interest for the village to be harmonious so why don't both sides attempt to work as a commmunity and resolve the issues that are causing bad feeling.

cookham Vs dewsbury

Mar 19th, 2008 - 4:37 PM

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oh dear having just witnessed parents picking up their children from school in two schools in cookham its no wonder the kids are a touch feral....most of the mothers looked like they came straight of a dewsbury council estate with foul language, smoking dressed like dustmen and one mother even had a can of lager she was swigging from,im not surprised we have teenagers running amoke when we have parents behaving in this manner

commuter

Mar 19th, 2008 - 5:33 PM

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"they will be the ones supplementing both your pension and your care home! They need activities suited to their generation, not ours, and if you dont like their presence at the train station when you get off it, stay on until Bourne End!"

I doubt that any of them will ever put a penny into the pension pot, more like spend a lifetime of claiming benefits and bleed the state dry.

As for kids in Cookham, it's a very very small minority that cause problems.
The vast majority are well mannered and pleasant.

This doesn't diminish from the issue though, it only takes 3 to abuse passers by / shop keepers / vandalise things to make everyone's life unpleasant.

So how about we spend time and money on the decent kids and crack down hard on the troublesome minority.
Why should the dregs of society receive more assistance than those that actually work.

It's this type of culture that starts young and now seems to be pervasive throughout British society, hence why we have such a massive unemployed underclass.

No work no reward should be the example set.

PTA

Mar 19th, 2008 - 5:42 PM

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Cookham v Dewsbury

Which schools are you referring to?

The scene you describe has not been witnessed at Holy Trinity, of that I assure you.

Vitriol in wholly unconstructive.

shop owner

Mar 19th, 2008 - 8:37 PM

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No one is still listening to the problems in the village, my parents in the 50's said youth was bad.now bad. Can no-one see that the teenagers are drinking and smoking pot.............dealers max olivier and james walker someone do something.my grand children will be teenagers in 3 years I do not wanr them with these losers
I have gamily in the care home --I worry

max oliver

Mar 19th, 2008 - 9:04 PM

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vince shut up about slough is watching was has slough got to do with it

max oliver

Mar 19th, 2008 - 9:08 PM

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and shop owner don't get my parents involved and i do have a dad thankyou very much nd what if i didnt he died or something i would be very upset so leave my parents out of this and stop slagging them off they do try and do everything to help me and i havent been out latly around cookham because im fed up of people blaming me for stuff i havent done i will admitt i have done a few stupid things but i get blamed for everything leave me alone and change the subject with my family because you've got no right to speak about them like that ask pc deharn he will tell you how nice and how supportive my parents are

vince

Mar 19th, 2008 - 11:16 PM

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max!SLOUGH IS WATCHING YOU.
GANG has informers.
people you p--- off know people from the estate.
slough runs cookham.dont p--- slough off.