Jenks

Jun 26, 06 - 4:20 PM

Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

I walk my youngest son to school in the morning through The Pound. The problem I have had is that I've had to dodge wing mirrors a few times particularly from trucks and vans. I've also seen parents struggling to get a pushchair along the path around the narrowest section. I'm sure a wheelchair wouldn't fit along the length of the path.

Isn't there a way of increasing the width of the path? It would only be required in a relatively short section. Any thoughts?

Joanne

Jun 26th, 2006 - 4:22 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

When the bumps were put in the pavement actually got narrower, I thought the plan was to make it wider to help pedestrians.

Shopaholic

Jun 26th, 2006 - 6:20 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

I also walk through the pound, sometimes 4 times a day, with a buggy. If you have anything bigger than a single umbrella type buggy you are in trouble! However, that said I do find that most motorists, including bus, van and lorry drivers appear, on the whole to be quite considerate and pull out slightly to the middle of the road to allow pedestrians more space. I cant really see how you would make the pavement wider without restricting the road to single lane traffic or asking the owner of the protruding wall at the narrowest point, to move it in slightly!! Wouldn't even dare to think what single lane traffic would do to Cookham Rise, near the Nursery and shops. Bad enough there as it is. What is the solution? If there even is one at all!

Mr K

Jun 26th, 2006 - 8:28 PM

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I also walk the Pound every day and, actually, although the majority of drivers are considerate enough to slow down, there's always one or two who go way too fast. And it's not just vans and lorries that are a danger, even a low car can present a danger to children - their wing mirrors are head height to a child. Unfortunately, like the situation in School Lane during the school run, it's only a matter of time before something really nasty happens. Then something will be done.

Jenks

Jun 27th, 2006 - 7:35 AM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

I'm not complaining about the drivers. It is only because the traffic is not going too fast that I'm able to dodge the occasional wing mirror. I'm just a touch worried that one day I might not see a wing mirror and ...

It is when the traffic is heaviest in the mornings that it's worst. It is at that time when cars or trucks squeeze past each other that the wing mirrors get a bit too close!

It's a shame we can't move a garden wall a few inches, has this ever been seriously considered? There must be a solution, it is just a matter of what is the priority - cars, pedestrians or gardens? But it's always easier to do nothing, that way nobody gets upset - until my head gets hit by a wing mirror

Mrs K

Jun 27th, 2006 - 11:54 AM

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I would also like to see the speed restrictions extended to the moor carpark, crossing the road there is particularly difficult in the morning and after school.

Pongo

Jun 27th, 2006 - 12:11 PM

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There was a suggestion at one time that there should be a path round the back behind the houses in the Pound going up from where Anchor Court is or through the paddock next door. I don't know what happened to that.

Local

Jun 27th, 2006 - 12:51 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

This has always been an issue. What about banning vehicles over 3.5 tonnes in weight from the Pound between the hours of 8.00am and 9.30am and 3.00pm and 4.30pm? I think some other village somewhere has done this. It might make deliveries to some shops a little awkward but would improve the situation whilst children are going to/from school and no-one would have to give up (or have compulsorily purchased) part of their property, and the walls which form such a historical part of the Pound could stay in place. I realise of course that this isn't a perfect solution, but it might help - not only with the wing mirror/path problem but also deterring some of the 'rat runner van weasels' that use the Pound like a bouncy racetrack at these times of the day.

Obviously the bin wagons would need an exception though, otherwise they'd just say they couldn't make collections from the houses in the Pound.

Mrs K

Jun 27th, 2006 - 2:52 PM

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The cars are more of a problem than the larger vehicles because they tend to drive much faster. At least when a lorry/bus goes through the traffic grinds to a halt. I love the idea of a path through the paddock behind the houses. Who's going to sort that out for us??

Local

Jun 29th, 2006 - 3:47 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

A path behind the houses - I don't think that's possible - you would only come to a dead end at the end of the paddock, unless the council wanted to compulsorily purchase parts of people's gardens.

Having said that though, if you don't mind a longer walk and aren't wearing stilettos, you could carry on up the track past the paddock, negotiate a gate and, then on reaching the top, take a right turn, down the single track road and come out at the other end of the Pound by the other mini roundabout. A bit of a hike perhaps with a pushchair, but it proves there is already an alternative route!

poet anon

Jul 1st, 2006 - 5:35 PM

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when I get to the pound i always fold my wing mirrors in. I know that everyone doesn't have this function on their cars but those of us who do could try it! It saves only inches but it might save a child's head too.

Jenks

Jul 4th, 2006 - 10:22 AM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

What about a path around the houses that exits out into Spencers car park or alongside it? Does this work?

Trigga

Jul 4th, 2006 - 6:14 PM

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I think the people in the houses were against that idea when it was mooted, as they were worried that it would be easy for people to go along the back of their house and case the joint.

Jenks

Jul 4th, 2006 - 8:46 PM

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I doubt if it would make much difference. The houses can be accessed from the rear already. There isn't a solution that will not upset somebody. But is there really a will to change The Pound?

Pumpkin

Jul 8th, 2006 - 11:40 AM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

The standard of driving in the village in general is beyond the pale. Indicators seem to be an optional extra! And cars coming down the high street towards the gallery, where there are cars on that side seem to think that they have the God given right to barge their way through, even though the cars going the other way have the right of way. Maddening!

Simon

Jul 12th, 2006 - 1:13 PM

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I have to agree with those who feel something needs to be done. I walked through the Pound on my way to the station for 5 years, and twice was hit by wing mirrors. Fortunately, both drivers were behind me and realised they were going to hit me so stood on the brakes and all I got was a bit of a bump. However, one day a driver will not notice and a wing mirror will hit someone at speed, with (probably) nasty results.

Jenks

Jul 13th, 2006 - 1:19 PM

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I've never actually been hit but I've had a few near misses. The worst 'near miss' was with a truck mirror which I think would have done quite a lot of damage

It would be very interesting to hear from people who have been hit or had near misses in The Pound ...

Jenks

Jul 17th, 2006 - 7:27 PM

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... obviously not as big a problem as I orginally thought!

Mrs K

Jul 18th, 2006 - 11:37 AM

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I think it is a big problem, I don't think we should be made to wait until there is a hideous accident to see any discussion on this issue. There must be a way of getting from the path that runs along the back of the houses into either Spencers or perhaps the Swan Uppers car parks.

Local

Jul 18th, 2006 - 12:50 PM

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Isn't is just as dangerous getting out of those two car parks - certainly the Swan Uppers would be. This is going to be pretty controversial - but the people whose houses you want to bypass at the back, probably paid a pretty hefty 'premium' on the cost of those houses just because of the view over the fields. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to see the value of their houses drop because of the world and his wife walking past the back garden. There haven't been any accidents, and this could well turn into one of those Cannondown Bridge type white elephants where, because of the fear of an accident, rather than any accident itself, change happens and then it is found to be the incorrect route to take. There have been more accidents and near misses under that bridge since the road was narrowed than there ever was before. If you put a path behind the houses - it would almost be worth putting money on the fact there would be an accident in the Pound because with less people using it, motorists would be less careful.

Jenks

Jul 18th, 2006 - 2:04 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

A bump between two cars at the sort of speeds we are talking of and the occupants are likely to be okay. A bump between a car and pedestrian is far more serious. Motor vehicle users 'choose' to drive and are trained accordingly but surely safe pedestrian access in a village should be assumed and encouraged.

Travel by walking/wheelchair/pram is the fundamental mode of transport for us humans. Surely we should encourage these modes of transport at all times for both environmental and health reasons. To me they should always take priority.

When there is perceived danger on a route then it is likely that the most vulnerable will be affected most. So as long as The Pound is perceived to be more dangerous then children (as one example) are less likely to use the route.

I am sure that there are now more children walking under the Cannondown bridge since a safer path has been made for walking. Yes it is narrower and you do have to be careful but as a driver I am aware of this and I am accordingly more cautious. I might still have a bump in my car there one day but luckily I will have a protective cage around me with air bags and I should be okay. Not so for the pedestrian.

Encouraging people out of there cars requires positive action and not a negative one such as waiting for an accident to happen.

I'm not anti-cars but I do believe that pedestrian routes should always take priority in residential areas. I'm also not really in favour of this traffic calming approach whereby 'the fear of hitting a pedestrian' is seen to be a good measure for slowing traffic down - in my view that will just reduce the number of pedestrians because they either feared walking and didn't or they did and ...

I think I've talked enough

MR ANGRY

Jul 18th, 2006 - 2:33 PM

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WELL SAID JENKS. AS FOR YOU LOCAL, IT'S 'FEWER PEOPLE' NOT 'LESS PEOPLE'.

Jenks

Jul 18th, 2006 - 4:05 PM

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Thank you Mr Angry but I'm not so sure about pointing out grammatical errors as it might discourage some healthy discussion. Besides I make loads of grammatical errors, and my spelling!!

The most important thing is to get people talking or perhaps I should say writing. So come on people, tell us what you think.

Mr K

Jul 18th, 2006 - 4:29 PM

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Hear hear! I would hate for people to be dissuaded from joining any discussion for fear of pronouncements on their grammar. Surely the purpose of language, written or otherwise, is to communicate without inhibition. Such judgements as yours could prove fatal to open discourse. So let's communicate! By the way, Mr Angry, you should have said

'Well said, Jenks.' Your comma was missing.

Pongo

Jul 18th, 2006 - 4:39 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

Traffic lights have been suggested in the past as well. Also one way and use Terrys Lane for the other way. Buses would love that. I think the council did not help by reducing the width of the pavement when they put in the road calming. I wonder how many of the cars are actually Cookham locals anyway, it does seem to be used as a rat run at rush hour as a lot of the cars seem to come from Maidenhead in the mornings.

Local

Jul 18th, 2006 - 5:30 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

Mr Angry - if you read the sentence concerned; both less and fewer make sense, unless of course your grammatical skills are firmly stuck in the past.

But then grammar isn't the point of this thread so I don't really know why I'm bothering; your 'anguished, angry' attitude is exactly why people get fed up with these discussions.

I take your point Jenks and Mr K. I think the traffic lights could be a good idea, working on the theory that they might also put off some of the 'rat runners' who don't necessarily need to come through the village to get to where they're going. Lights wouldn't overtly change the character and historical value of the Pound either.

Birdman

Jul 18th, 2006 - 6:05 PM

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HI. I just noticed Pongo's reference to a suggestion made a while back for a path to be created behind the pub and houses to avoid folk having to do battle with Pound Traffic.
It was I that suggested it at the time to the Parish Council (and maybe I wasn't the only one) but as to what happened in response to the suggestion - !$£$*&^

Perhaps we have to wait for an accident first?[:-?]

Fiona Beaumont

Mar 14th, 2008 - 3:06 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

Re: with cross reference to Cookham Plan discussion

I just found this discussion from back in 2006. It seems like this issue has been running a while....and a walkway idea has been supported before.

Maybe we do just need to wait for a child to be hit on the head.

Sticky Beak

Mar 14th, 2008 - 6:29 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

Having just had a nose on Google earth, I think any walkway would have to stop at the Swan Uppers due to gardens being in the way further down. I suspect the only answer is to try to get people out of their cars and I think only a seriously hefty congestion charge would do that! £100 per day?!

Waterman

Mar 15th, 2008 - 12:08 PM

Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound

I've been hit twice in the past year. The only time I feel safe is when I'm carrying an umbrella or something similar that sticks out slightly. Drivers are careful if they think there's a chance of their paintwork being scratched...

Lorries tend to be less of a problem, in my experience, as they usually have to slow down anyway.

One thing we really need to do is to discourage people from buying bigger and bigger cars. 4x4s look ridiculous on our streets.

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Jenks Jun 26, 06 - 4:20 PM	Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I walk my youngest son to school in the morning through The Pound. The problem I have had is that I've had to dodge wing mirrors a few times particularly from trucks and vans. I've also seen parents struggling to get a pushchair along the path around the narrowest section. I'm sure a wheelchair wouldn't fit along the length of the path. Isn't there a way of increasing the width of the path? It would only be required in a relatively short section. Any thoughts?
Joanne Jun 26th, 2006 - 4:22 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound When the bumps were put in the pavement actually got narrower, I thought the plan was to make it wider to help pedestrians.
Shopaholic Jun 26th, 2006 - 6:20 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I also walk through the pound, sometimes 4 times a day, with a buggy. If you have anything bigger than a single umbrella type buggy you are in trouble! However, that said I do find that most motorists, including bus, van and lorry drivers appear, on the whole to be quite considerate and pull out slightly to the middle of the road to allow pedestrians more space. I cant really see how you would make the pavement wider without restricting the road to single lane traffic or asking the owner of the protruding wall at the narrowest point, to move it in slightly!! Wouldn't even dare to think what single lane traffic would do to Cookham Rise, near the Nursery and shops. Bad enough there as it is. What is the solution? If there even is one at all! Email: sally@thetodds.co.uk MSN: sally@thetodds.co.uk
Mr K Jun 26th, 2006 - 8:28 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I also walk the Pound every day and, actually, although the majority of drivers are considerate enough to slow down, there's always one or two who go way too fast. And it's not just vans and lorries that are a danger, even a low car can present a danger to children - their wing mirrors are head height to a child. Unfortunately, like the situation in School Lane during the school run, it's only a matter of time before something really nasty happens. Then something will be done.
Jenks Jun 27th, 2006 - 7:35 AM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I'm not complaining about the drivers. It is only because the traffic is not going too fast that I'm able to dodge the occasional wing mirror. I'm just a touch worried that one day I might not see a wing mirror and ... It is when the traffic is heaviest in the mornings that it's worst. It is at that time when cars or trucks squeeze past each other that the wing mirrors get a bit too close! It's a shame we can't move a garden wall a few inches, has this ever been seriously considered? There must be a solution, it is just a matter of what is the priority - cars, pedestrians or gardens? But it's always easier to do nothing, that way nobody gets upset - until my head gets hit by a wing mirror
Mrs K Jun 27th, 2006 - 11:54 AM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I would also like to see the speed restrictions extended to the moor carpark, crossing the road there is particularly difficult in the morning and after school. Email: mrsk@hotmail.com
Pongo Jun 27th, 2006 - 12:11 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound There was a suggestion at one time that there should be a path round the back behind the houses in the Pound going up from where Anchor Court is or through the paddock next door. I don't know what happened to that.
Local Jun 27th, 2006 - 12:51 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound This has always been an issue. What about banning vehicles over 3.5 tonnes in weight from the Pound between the hours of 8.00am and 9.30am and 3.00pm and 4.30pm? I think some other village somewhere has done this. It might make deliveries to some shops a little awkward but would improve the situation whilst children are going to/from school and no-one would have to give up (or have compulsorily purchased) part of their property, and the walls which form such a historical part of the Pound could stay in place. I realise of course that this isn't a perfect solution, but it might help - not only with the wing mirror/path problem but also deterring some of the 'rat runner van weasels' that use the Pound like a bouncy racetrack at these times of the day. Obviously the bin wagons would need an exception though, otherwise they'd just say they couldn't make collections from the houses in the Pound. Email: praisey@golder.com
Mrs K Jun 27th, 2006 - 2:52 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound The cars are more of a problem than the larger vehicles because they tend to drive much faster. At least when a lorry/bus goes through the traffic grinds to a halt. I love the idea of a path through the paddock behind the houses. Who's going to sort that out for us?? Email: mrsk@hotmail.com
Local Jun 29th, 2006 - 3:47 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound A path behind the houses - I don't think that's possible - you would only come to a dead end at the end of the paddock, unless the council wanted to compulsorily purchase parts of people's gardens. Having said that though, if you don't mind a longer walk and aren't wearing stilettos, you could carry on up the track past the paddock, negotiate a gate and, then on reaching the top, take a right turn, down the single track road and come out at the other end of the Pound by the other mini roundabout. A bit of a hike perhaps with a pushchair, but it proves there is already an alternative route! Email: praisey@golder.com
poet anon Jul 1st, 2006 - 5:35 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound when I get to the pound i always fold my wing mirrors in. I know that everyone doesn't have this function on their cars but those of us who do could try it! It saves only inches but it might save a child's head too. Email: gaildton@dircon.co.uk
Jenks Jul 4th, 2006 - 10:22 AM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound What about a path around the houses that exits out into Spencers car park or alongside it? Does this work?
Trigga Jul 4th, 2006 - 6:14 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I think the people in the houses were against that idea when it was mooted, as they were worried that it would be easy for people to go along the back of their house and case the joint.
Jenks Jul 4th, 2006 - 8:46 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I doubt if it would make much difference. The houses can be accessed from the rear already. There isn't a solution that will not upset somebody. But is there really a will to change The Pound?
Pumpkin Jul 8th, 2006 - 11:40 AM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound The standard of driving in the village in general is beyond the pale. Indicators seem to be an optional extra! And cars coming down the high street towards the gallery, where there are cars on that side seem to think that they have the God given right to barge their way through, even though the cars going the other way have the right of way. Maddening! Email: pink-heaven@hotmail.co.uk
Simon Jul 12th, 2006 - 1:13 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I have to agree with those who feel something needs to be done. I walked through the Pound on my way to the station for 5 years, and twice was hit by wing mirrors. Fortunately, both drivers were behind me and realised they were going to hit me so stood on the brakes and all I got was a bit of a bump. However, one day a driver will not notice and a wing mirror will hit someone at speed, with (probably) nasty results. Email: abbotts416@mod.uk
Jenks Jul 13th, 2006 - 1:19 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I've never actually been hit but I've had a few near misses. The worst 'near miss' was with a truck mirror which I think would have done quite a lot of damage It would be very interesting to hear from people who have been hit or had near misses in The Pound ...
Jenks Jul 17th, 2006 - 7:27 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound ... obviously not as big a problem as I orginally thought!
Mrs K Jul 18th, 2006 - 11:37 AM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I think it is a big problem, I don't think we should be made to wait until there is a hideous accident to see any discussion on this issue. There must be a way of getting from the path that runs along the back of the houses into either Spencers or perhaps the Swan Uppers car parks.
Local Jul 18th, 2006 - 12:50 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Isn't is just as dangerous getting out of those two car parks - certainly the Swan Uppers would be. This is going to be pretty controversial - but the people whose houses you want to bypass at the back, probably paid a pretty hefty 'premium' on the cost of those houses just because of the view over the fields. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to see the value of their houses drop because of the world and his wife walking past the back garden. There haven't been any accidents, and this could well turn into one of those Cannondown Bridge type white elephants where, because of the fear of an accident, rather than any accident itself, change happens and then it is found to be the incorrect route to take. There have been more accidents and near misses under that bridge since the road was narrowed than there ever was before. If you put a path behind the houses - it would almost be worth putting money on the fact there would be an accident in the Pound because with less people using it, motorists would be less careful. Email: praisey@golder.com
Jenks Jul 18th, 2006 - 2:04 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound A bump between two cars at the sort of speeds we are talking of and the occupants are likely to be okay. A bump between a car and pedestrian is far more serious. Motor vehicle users 'choose' to drive and are trained accordingly but surely safe pedestrian access in a village should be assumed and encouraged. Travel by walking/wheelchair/pram is the fundamental mode of transport for us humans. Surely we should encourage these modes of transport at all times for both environmental and health reasons. To me they should always take priority. When there is perceived danger on a route then it is likely that the most vulnerable will be affected most. So as long as The Pound is perceived to be more dangerous then children (as one example) are less likely to use the route. I am sure that there are now more children walking under the Cannondown bridge since a safer path has been made for walking. Yes it is narrower and you do have to be careful but as a driver I am aware of this and I am accordingly more cautious. I might still have a bump in my car there one day but luckily I will have a protective cage around me with air bags and I should be okay. Not so for the pedestrian. Encouraging people out of there cars requires positive action and not a negative one such as waiting for an accident to happen. I'm not anti-cars but I do believe that pedestrian routes should always take priority in residential areas. I'm also not really in favour of this traffic calming approach whereby 'the fear of hitting a pedestrian' is seen to be a good measure for slowing traffic down - in my view that will just reduce the number of pedestrians because they either feared walking and didn't or they did and ... I think I've talked enough
MR ANGRY Jul 18th, 2006 - 2:33 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound WELL SAID JENKS. AS FOR YOU LOCAL, IT'S 'FEWER PEOPLE' NOT 'LESS PEOPLE'.
Jenks Jul 18th, 2006 - 4:05 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Thank you Mr Angry but I'm not so sure about pointing out grammatical errors as it might discourage some healthy discussion. Besides I make loads of grammatical errors, and my spelling!! The most important thing is to get people talking or perhaps I should say writing. So come on people, tell us what you think.
Mr K Jul 18th, 2006 - 4:29 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Hear hear! I would hate for people to be dissuaded from joining any discussion for fear of pronouncements on their grammar. Surely the purpose of language, written or otherwise, is to communicate without inhibition. Such judgements as yours could prove fatal to open discourse. So let's communicate! By the way, Mr Angry, you should have said 'Well said, Jenks.' Your comma was missing.
Pongo Jul 18th, 2006 - 4:39 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Traffic lights have been suggested in the past as well. Also one way and use Terrys Lane for the other way. Buses would love that. I think the council did not help by reducing the width of the pavement when they put in the road calming. I wonder how many of the cars are actually Cookham locals anyway, it does seem to be used as a rat run at rush hour as a lot of the cars seem to come from Maidenhead in the mornings.
Local Jul 18th, 2006 - 5:30 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Mr Angry - if you read the sentence concerned; both less and fewer make sense, unless of course your grammatical skills are firmly stuck in the past. But then grammar isn't the point of this thread so I don't really know why I'm bothering; your 'anguished, angry' attitude is exactly why people get fed up with these discussions. I take your point Jenks and Mr K. I think the traffic lights could be a good idea, working on the theory that they might also put off some of the 'rat runners' who don't necessarily need to come through the village to get to where they're going. Lights wouldn't overtly change the character and historical value of the Pound either. Email: praisey@golder.com
Birdman Jul 18th, 2006 - 6:05 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound HI. I just noticed Pongo's reference to a suggestion made a while back for a path to be created behind the pub and houses to avoid folk having to do battle with Pound Traffic. It was I that suggested it at the time to the Parish Council (and maybe I wasn't the only one) but as to what happened in response to the suggestion - !$£$&^ Perhaps we have to wait for an accident first?[:-?] Email:* brian.clews@btconnect.com
Fiona Beaumont Mar 14th, 2008 - 3:06 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Re: with cross reference to Cookham Plan discussion I just found this discussion from back in 2006. It seems like this issue has been running a while....and a walkway idea has been supported before. Maybe we do just need to wait for a child to be hit on the head. Email: fbeaumont@btinternet.com
Sticky Beak Mar 14th, 2008 - 6:29 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound Having just had a nose on Google earth, I think any walkway would have to stop at the Swan Uppers due to gardens being in the way further down. I suspect the only answer is to try to get people out of their cars and I think only a seriously hefty congestion charge would do that! £100 per day?!
Waterman Mar 15th, 2008 - 12:08 PM	Re: Dodging wing mirrors in The Pound I've been hit twice in the past year. The only time I feel safe is when I'm carrying an umbrella or something similar that sticks out slightly. Drivers are careful if they think there's a chance of their paintwork being scratched... Lorries tend to be less of a problem, in my experience, as they usually have to slow down anyway. One thing we really need to do is to discourage people from buying bigger and bigger cars. 4x4s look ridiculous on our streets. Email: krishandav@aol.com