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Subject:   Read this email thread from bottom to top, and weep...
Name:   Bruce Arnold
Date Posted:   May 14, 08 - 9:35 PM
Email:   bruce@ldrlongdistancerider.com
Message:   Read this email thread from bottom to top, and weep...

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From: Miller, Bob (Robert F) [mailto:Miller.Bob@scrippshealth.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:13 PM
To: Bruce@LdrLongDistanceRider.com
Subject: Re: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues Urgent Nationwide Call-to-Action!

No.

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From: Bruce Arnold
To: Miller, Bob (Robert F)
Sent: Wed May 14 16:47:57 2008
Subject: RE: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues Urgent Nationwide Call-to-Action!

OK,

Are there ANY rights or freedoms that you, as a motorcyclist, consider worth fighting for?

If so, what are they?

Bruce

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From: Miller, Bob (Robert F) [mailto:Miller.Bob@scrippshealth.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:41 PM
To: Bruce@LdrLongDistanceRider.com
Subject: Re: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues Urgent Nationwide Call-to-Action!

I've head it all before. Doesn't change my opinion at all, but does confirm why I prefer not to receive your messages.

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From: Bruce Arnold
To: Miller, Bob (Robert F)
Sent: Wed May 14 16:00:12 2008
Subject: RE: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues Urgent Nationwide Call-to-Action!

Then I guess you have much to learn, my friend.

Smoking. Drinking. Obesity. Lethargy.

Any one of these four has higher "social costs" than even the most misguided
of nannycrats assign to motorcycle accidents, regardless of whether the
rider was lidded or lidless. If we're going to pass laws to save lives and
cut social costs, why not start with one or all of these?

Do me a favor, Bob. Read these articles:

OPEN LETTER TO D. HOUSTON & L. RICHARDSON
http://www.ldrlongdistancerider.com/motorcyclists_rights/bikersrights0805.php

MOTORCYCLIST DEATHS SPIKE AS MYOPIC MEDIA SPINS
http://www.ldrlongdistancerider.com/motorcyclists_rights/bikersrights0804.php

IS THERE A FIRE? WILL BRAIN BUCKETS PUT IT OUT?
http://www.ldrlongdistancerider.com/motorcyclists_rights/bikersrights0801.php

Be sure to follow all the links. Then come back and tell me what you've
learned.

You have a brain, Bob. Feed it some facts.

Bruce

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From: Miller, Bob (Robert F) [mailto:Miller.Bob@scrippshealth.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:41 PM
To: Bruce Arnold
Subject: RE: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues Urgent
Nationwide Call-to-Action!

I guess my position is that, as much as I am a proponent of free speech
and freedom of choice, I do not believe that the world, beyond the
rider, which pays the price of the injury and death of helmetless riders
can trust many riders to make a choice on this issue. Even the "beanie"
wearers I see in California, where they have no choice, are not being
responsible to themselves, their families or to the people who pay for
the cost of their injuries.

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From: Bruce Arnold [mailto:Bruce@LdrLongDistanceRider.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:33 PM
To: Miller, Bob (Robert F)
Subject: RE: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues
Urgent Nationwide Call-to-Action!

No problem,

But first tell me what in God's name makes you think we oppose the use
of helmets?!?

You are not stupid, and neither am I. So give me an honest response.

Bruce Arnold

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From: Miller, Bob (Robert F) [mailto:Miller.Bob@scrippshealth.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:25 PM
To: Bruce@LdrLongDistanceRider.com
Subject: RE: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues
Urgent Nationwide Call-to-Action!

Please take me off this distribution list. I really am totally
insensitive to groups promoting the interests of "lidless riders". To
even consider getting on a motorcycle without a helmet is one of the
stupidest, most irresponsible things an intelligent rider can do.
Bob Miller

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From: Bruce Arnold [mailto:Bruce@LdrLongDistanceRider.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:58 PM
To: laws@bmwocsd.org
Subject: Attention All Motorcyclists: ABATE of Louisiana issues Urgent
Nationwide Call-to-Action!

FIRST AMENDMENT NOTICE: This is a political communication to Bruce's
Rights Riders List exercising our Freedom of Speech as guaranteed by the
U.S. Constitution and exempted from the C.A.N.S.P.A.M. Act of 2003 to
convey information regarding motorcyclists' rights and motorcycle
awareness issues. To insure that you continue to receive emails like
this, please add "bruce@ldrlongdistancerider.com" to your address book
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From: ABATEPOET@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:44 AM
To: ABATEPOET@aol.com

Subject: URGENT NATIONWIDE CALL-TO-ACTION!

A.B.A.T.E. of Louisiana, Inc.
P.O. Box 541
St. Amant, LA 70774

Yesterday our Bills suffered a tough time on the House Floor.

HB 864...

http://tinyurl.com/5wdlhg

...the Bill to move the Riders Education course out of BESE and into the
DPS, didn't get the 2/3rd's majority vote required to pass on the floor.
This was reportedly due to the fact that the fiscal note tied to it was
over $900,000.00. This Bill would have secured our training funds that
are paid for by motorcyclists' endorsement fees, funds that BESE has
raided every time the schools were in trouble (which was often) and it
would have also created new course sites that are sorely needed. The
Representatives decided that our safety wasn't worth the price tag.

HB 1295...

http://tinyurl.com/5gvy4f

...our Modified Helmet Bill, was withdrawn from the calendar temporarily
when it became apparent that it was going to be attacked with amendments
that would have rendered the Bill unpalatable to members of the
motorcycling community. The amendments are as follows:

1. $50,000.00 personal health insurance policy that motorcyclists would
have to carry to go lidless. Offered by Representative Neil C. Abramson
(Democrat Dist. 9 . This amendment would have been discriminatory due
to the fact that it wouldn't apply equally to all segments of the
motoring public.

2. Denial of a lidless rider the right to sue for injuries suffered in
an accident Offered by Representative Neil C. Abramson (Democrat Dist.
9 . This amendment would have essentially allowed the guilty party to
go unpunished while the victim would have had to either use their own
insurance to pay for medical treatment or seek free (public burden?)
medical care if their insurance was insufficient.

3. An amendment to require motorcyclists who choose to go lidless to
sign an organ donor card (donor cyclists?) Offered by Representative
Jean-Paul "JP" Morrell Democrat - District 97. This amendment is not
only discriminatory but could be construed as unconstitutional.

You have to wonder what these people are thinking, how that got elected,
and if they are even from the same planet as the rest of us. We have
until next Wednesday, 5/21/08, to set these Representatives straight and
get our Bill back on the calendar or it will die on the House floor.
While we are attempting to bring Freedom of Choice in a responsible
manner the powers that be are being totally irresponsible in telling us
how this should be implemented.


[***FOR BIKERS IN LOUISIANA***]

Now more than ever we need to contact our Representatives and let them
know how we feel about this Bill and the amendments being offered on it
and we are requesting a nationwide call to action to accomplish this
task. Without a massive ROAR this Bill is doomed to failure and we will
continue to be burdened with wearing a piece of safety equipment that
has done nothing to enhance safety and stop our Brothers and Sisters
from dying on the highways of this great state.

To find your Representative go to this link:

http://tinyurl.com/6jl3da

For continuous updates on the status of Bills affecting motorcyclists go
to this link:

http://tinyurl.com/5sp9lg


[***FOR BIKERS NATIONWIDE***]

We need [BIKERS NATIONWIDE] to contact as many of Representatives as
they can to vote for our Bill [HB 1295] without the offered amendments.
[SEE LOUISIANA REPS EMAIL ADDRESSES BELOW] Since Louisiana relies on
tourism as one of its main industries the loss of tourist dollars will
have an impact on their decision. Also the discriminatory nature of the
amendments being offered should be addressed. The authors of these
amendments are in the body of this press release.

Remember: One voice is but a whisper, but a thousand voices are a ROAR!

Ride Safe, Ride FREE
Poet
State Executive President
Abate Of La., Inc.
Replies:    
Your Impression of Us by Kenneth R. Casey · May 15, 08 - 5:54 AM
Re: Your Impression of Us by rc · May 15, 08 - 9:25 AM
Your Bills by David Hawks · May 15, 08 - 5:12 PM
Re: Your Bills by rc · May 15, 08 - 10:19 PM
Hi Bruce by Al & Dolly Salmi · May 16, 08 - 1:12 PM


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